Disabled tenant loses home because of IDS bedroom tax cock up!! IDS has to resign

Disable tenant evicted from his HOME for arrears is exempt due to DWP cock up over pre 1996 issue! Resign IDS

I have just read a blog by Mike Sivier which is here and this is absolute political dynamite and it could well turn out to be the straw that broke the camels back

A disabled tenant lost their home directly because of an IDS cock up.

  1. Eviction by oppression?
  2. Lawyers drooling over compensation?
  3. The position of IDS politically untenable?
  4. The bedroom tax dead?
  5. Opposition making hay this week over this?

Its a yes to all five for me

The key bit of the article by Mike Sivier reads:

If you think that’s bad, though, just wait until you learn about my other friend!

He is an older gentleman who has been disabled for many years. He had been living in a small, two-bedroomed house that had been adapted to accommodate his needs. We know precisely how much these adaptations cost to install at current rates: £5,000.

I believe he needed the extra bedroom to accommodate carer needs but I could be mistaken.

Along came the Bedroom Tax and suddenly he did not have enough income to cover the cost of living there. The council (or social landlord, I have to admit I’m not sure) sent him an eviction notice. He appealed.

Guess what? His appeal was set to be decided after the date he was ordered to be out of his home.

So he had to go. He was lucky enough to find another place to live, and all the equipment he needs to accommodate his disability moved along with him – at a cost of £5,000.

Then he received the judgement on his appeal: He was exempt from paying the Bedroom Tax; he should never have been forced to move.

I don’t need to comment any further except to say if the above is factual then how can the bedroom tax survive? How can IDS survive?

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UPDATE – it appears the subtleties need a sledgehammer!

  • A disabled tenant with adaptations yet where was the panacea of a DHP?
  • Did the landlord do all they can (pre court protocol) ie help tenant apply for DHP
  • Did the landlord check any outstanding HB? Did the judge? Both told none presumably when there was!
  • Eviction by oppression anyone?
  • Has the tenant made sure the bedroom tax unlawfully deducted been pad back to him and not to the landlord who evicted him because they couldn’t be arsed doing their job? I do hope so!
  • Did the tenant incur costs of eviction – all caused by the DWP and then his local council mistake? Yes
  • Has the tenant been put through hell because DWP and his council failed to follow the law? Yes
  • Has the tenant been advised to seek compensation? He should
  • Has his property been relet? If not seek to get back in it
  • Has the tenant launched a maladministration case against the council? He should
  • Has the tenant launched a maladministration case against DWP? He should
  • Has the tenant sought to take action against his landlord? He should

Starting to get the picture reader?

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27 thoughts on “Disabled tenant loses home because of IDS bedroom tax cock up!! IDS has to resign

  1. I think these two tenants really need to be named to varify their story as much as I would like it to be wholly true it’s all a bit too convenient don’t you think? a bit wushu washy in a few areas of the supposed letter or post.
    I think Mr Silveirs really needs to varify and name sources on this one
    If only it was 100% true think what the publicity could do, it doesn’t bare thinking about, I’ve said all along that this is likely to be the outcome, and no one would Beleive me, I so so hope this is wholly factual and correct

    Bringing it to you straight, factual and correct since 2011 – fighting for your rights 24/7 https://www.facebook.com/groups/btukhomeswapnetwork

    1. There is absolutely NO reason to think this not true Dougie. WHY, would it not be??
      Not everyone, wish’s to be named. Or, have their situation, publicised.
      They will have already been under enormous stress and distress. By this situation.

      1. I have updated the post with some of the issues as I see it and not from any further information which I have asked for. Taking the story at face value there are hugely significant issues here

  2. Reblogged this on The Wayward Nana and commented:
    How can someone in our government be allowed to cause such hardship distress and pain to our most vulnerable disabled people and still keep his job?
    The only explanation for this must be he has been allowed to deliberately harm them by our prime minister.
    What kind of men think kicking vulnerable people is ok? What kind of parents produce people who think it’s acceptable to harm and bully the disabled vulnerable and kick them illegally out of their homes? Nothing like this has happened since Hitler did the same in the second world war! He committed crimes against humanity. Now our government is doing it too. We need to all stand up for these poor people because one day he might turn on you and your people. Bedroom tax is illegal regardless of how many British judges deem otherwise. Get this to the European union an let them deal with this despotic maniacs.

  3. Debbie Price
    It’s NOT that I don’t Beleive it’s true per say it’s as I stated THE media source it allegedly originated from that more worries me, are you really trying to say that you trust what the SuN newspaper claims ??? surely not hence why I suggested verification BEFORE this goes viral and causes so many issues if it weren’t I would of though in light of others and far more importantly now these have to be 100% correct and NOT paid Lutheranian models saying what they are told too that’s my worry as I said at the start of my post above there is quite a few indiscretions if true !!!

    Fighting, supporting & Giving advice since 2011 on BT and still doing so today having helped 100’s already https://www.facebook.com/groups/btukhomeswapnetwork

  4. Dougie, Joe Halewood is a well respected Housing Specialist. Do you really think he would put his name to this without checking out the facts and the source? He is a professional.

  5. Similar situation could have easily developed here in Telford when a 62yr old disabled woman on 24/7 oxygen and unable to climb stairs in her own 3 bed house was told she was not able to use the 1996 ‘loophole’ in spite of the fact that she had been claiming since 1995 and still in same house.

    Her landlord representative told her quite plainly that she was not entitled to claim. This same landlord has refused to fit a stair lift and she has been unable to use her upstairs for over 2 years. Told that she would face eviction if she did not pay.

    I wonder how many other tenants who do not read these articles about reasons to appeal are being told that they have no right of appeal. I bet there are many throughout the land.

    If it is the case that these tenants who do qualify for exemption are being told they are not, then would they qualify for compensation if they pay and then later find out, after IDS has closed this ‘loophole’.

    There is also the case for those who are under contract NOT to move after there have been adaptations to homes whereby they cannot move for at least 5 years following the adaptations. How can they move? Impossible unless the Councils/Landlords breach their own contracts.

    This needs a large reaction and it should be directly on Downing Street and Parliament. We should be as strong as the Ukraine’s and other countries who stand up against governments.

  6. I am disabled and wheelchair bound live in a 3 bed house which has been adapted
    I am allowed on bedroom for overnight carer. Other room houses my disability eqipment
    Have been told i have to pay for this room. I was turned down for dhp as i am suppised to use the money i use for my incontinence supplies. I appealed the bedroom tax decison the
    First tier tribunal disallowed my appeal am supposed to cram all my eqipment into my bed room. My adaptions for my house were through a grant so cannot move for 5 yrs. LLandlord took me to court for eviction. Judge suspended it and i have to pay bedroom tax and money from my arrears. Landlord says if i miss 1 payment or dont pay the set amount i will be evicted within a week. I am on housing list to move as per dhp instructions. All i am allowed to bid on is 8x 3 bed unadapted houses 7x first floor flats unadapted and 3x 2 bed unadapted bungalows where i dont have a local connection. Due to all the stress on my health is getting worse so i am paying what i have been ordered to pay and eating once per week instead of once per day. I know i am not alone many people are suffering. This my first post on here so i hope i haven’t whinged too much.

    1. Hi, I am very sorry to hear of your situation. Many have won appeals in your situation.
      There are groups on Facebook, that you could join for help and support.
      You should NOT be paying for your 3rd. so called, ‘bedroom’. When it is used for storage of medical equipment.
      And, you should NOT be paying from your DLA. Research. Burnip V Birmingham.
      You should NOT feel forced to move.
      You MUST take this further. To an upper Tribunal.

    2. Katwoman
      I am really sorry about what you are going through, and find it disgusting and am really angry for you.
      Joe wrote the fantastic piece which tells you how to appeal since the Bolton tribunal overturned some of the rules about bedrooms and their uses.
      https://speye.wordpress.com/2014/02/19/bedroom-tax-is-appealing-cc-all-social-landlords/

      Please read through it carefully and know that there are thousands who are going to do this – don’t let your landlord step on you the way he is and don’t stop fighting. You have that anger and energy to do that, believe me, I know.

      Hope you situation does get resolved quickly and in your favour!

  7. Hi Debbie i have applied 3x for dhp all have been turned down giving the same reason. I have asked for leave to appeal the first tier tribunal decision but i think i was out of time with it as i was dealing with my eviction case over christmas and i was a bit poorly with all the stress i hadnt kept a check of the time limit on the appeal papers. I have requested an appeal but am still waiting to hear if that will be allowed to go ahead. I keep fighting but keep getting knocked back (1 step forward 20 steps back) its taking a heavy toll on my health if this appeal is disallowed then that really is my last avenue. As i dont think i could take much more. Thanks for your supporting words.

  8. This has to be stopped – this “bedroom tax” has been appealed against and the room sizes and room uses have been adjusted by an Upper Tribunal.
    Oh how I despise this government! This unelected cabinet are coming to Scotland tomorrow via plane – it would be lovely to think that somewhere, over a deserted sea, deep river, loch or deserted land that something happened to the plane! I know a lot of you won’t like the way I am thinking but it’s become so bad that all I can think of is death to them. We could get rid of them by the people all joining together, but there is no chance of that!

  9. I don’t think we really require another Lockerbie much as we require to have a change of Government I think killing them all off is a bit drastic 🙂
    As for me attempting to disagree with Joe I am very far from that, as I’ve said numerable times now my concern was (are we all listening this time?) my concern was as described based solely and ONLY due to the paper this came from, if any if you seriously believe very much The Sun says ? well need I say anymore, I doubt it as it’s as bad if not worse than The Daily Fail frankly and they make most of it up, and the rest they obtain from dubious sources, when people’s names, areas and details ARE not used there is reason to doubt and frankly with the way the media is in this country I am shocked that no one can see the angle I am approaching this from.
    One question Joe, I take it from the wording of your update that you are non the wiser as to who this person is or even whether he lost his home, or anything else it’s all a big bit vague and therefore suspect.
    That said if I wasn’t so worried this may be the case, don’t you think I would be all over this one you to Debbie seeing as since early 2011 I have warned that evictions will follow and I was told repeatedly I was scaremongering, talking tosh etc, the same went about DHP which by in large went to keep disabled in their homes in many areas as i said it would now you don’t need to have Joes contacts to work these ones out as it’s all well documented on the various Gov circulars, memos and guidances notes all i can now add is my comments above were NOT in any way shape or form aimed at Joe for any reason other than checking facts so please guys DON’T make it into something it’s not, with any luck this explains my earlier interest and will mark an end to the cross questioning, many thanks.

    Working harder to bring you the facts, as they are available supplying support guidance and resources to ALL BT affected tenants since early 2011 ONLY from BEDROOM! TAX CHAT https://www.facebook.com/groups/btukhomeswapnetwork Facebooks original BT group and still going strong growing day on day part of the UK Homeswap Network Group of pages with many localized home swap pages, The A-Z Homeswap Groups Directory, UK Homeswap Topics Forum, ESA/DLA/PIP help support and information, UK Benefits help and support, Bedroom Tax Chat, Disabled Housing Chat, Support & Swaps to name but a few, helping many make the right choices for their situation let us also help you simply search any of the above names or go to BT page and you will find links to all others

    1. I have said I have taken this at face value yes but where does the Sun and Daily Mail come into this? The article this comes from dont mention either of those rags that I wouldnt wipe my backside with

  10. Dougie Mcpherson! You blocked my friend from a facebook bedroom tax group simply because she was an active campaigner against bedroom tax!!! She reported you to those who established the group and you were removed as admin there. I see you all over facebook anti bedroom tax groups and you always appear to be carrying a bucket of cold negativity and steering anyone who will listen, to swallow the bedroom tax pill with a dollop of sugar coated home swap downsizing.

  11. Dougie McPherson – Duncan – whatever his real name is, from MALLAIG and not as he told me personally from Glasgow – is a figure of fun on FB. His arrogant, boastful, smug yet ultimately meaningless and ill-informed posts (in each of his umpteen groups) are laughed at.

    He conducts ‘surveys’ by means of questionnaires. Group members are ordered (yes ordered) to reply to the questions only – no other comments of any kind to be added – because other information, he says, ‘is of no use to us’.

    US?? Who is ‘us’? Who is he to ask detailed questions about members’ housing history, employment history, housing benefit history? To whom is he supplying this information?

    He has since day one repeatedly insisted that members of his groups REFRAIN from appealing their BT decisions. He said it was a waste of time, BT is here to stay, get used to it, NO appeal can ever work, blah blah. He has been proved wrong time and again but he chooses not to mention that in posts. He detests Joe and others who work FOR tenants. Why? Because they are proving him wrong more and more often.

    He once said when I was a group member (briefly – he removed me instantly without warning for stating that everyone should appeal!) that appealing was not only a waste of time, it would also create more work for poor council staff… 100% true story. Poor council staff!

    Dougie/Duncan from Mallaig (and not Bearsden, Glasgow , as he claims) now vets every single post before permitting any to appear on his group pages. He is NO FRIEND to the Tenant, no friend to anyone who is opposed to government welfare cuts. He told me personally last Spring – when details of ATOS suicides and WCA wrongful decisions were flooding into FB – that it was ‘easy peasy’ to get into the Support Group. Took him, he claimed, 15 minutes. He is so severely disabled, he says, that his wife has to do all the talking; he ‘cannot communicate’ he told me. Fifteen minutes, he said, and he was on his way home again. CANNOT COMMUNICATE? He types a thousand words where twenty would do.

    Dougie/Duncan whoever the hell you are, you need to be properly and thoroughly investigated. You are NOT what you wish everyone to believe. Your motives are seriously questionable, and you are in all other respects a total balloon. How many Tenants have you HARMED by ‘advising’ them that appealing BT was a waste of time? How many Tenants have been forced to downsize, or simply pay up and suffer hardship, THANKS TO YOU? You’re a disgrace.

    By the way Bedroom Tax came into force on April 1st, 2013. I doubt very much you were telling Tenants evictions would follow etc in 2011. In your fantasy world, perhaps, where you are Lord God Highness Dougie McPherson. Or Duncan. Or whomever. Do you work in Mallaig, too? That’s what I read!

  12. Doug , Dougi, Dougie ,Douglas McPherson or what ever you like to be know as you have that many different accounts in FB keeping track of you is easy why do you say you had to leave a much loved home may I add a 2 bedroom Myrtle Bank Morar to move to a 3 bed in Drymen at a cost to you ? and also now pay out over £100 a month in BT why not just stay in the 2 bed you are so bad with your illnesses cancer MS ect you would have qualified for help or got away with paying BT also . If I personally was that bad why have so many groups running and who exactly are you keeping these facts and figures and who exactly are you to demand and then KEEP figures and statistics about people’s housing and benefit claim history? On whose behalf do you keep these figures and what is the purpose
    oh maybe its the the Myrtle Bank property as you seems to have a static advertising page for (Our housing association mutual exchange ) WHO is OUR ? and then your home swapper page hey are you a private landlord waiting to buy up every property that you can and what is with a Privacy Disclaimer-
    (Please complete the above questionnaire as accurately as possible in the way requested, as it is for data collection purposes it has to be done in this way for ease of collection of said data ) WHO IS OUR ? , then again your also into photography and also run a Volkswagen golf club hey your such a busy man how do you have time to be ill with doing all this and sorting out facts & figures may I add you now vet people and posts on your pages no like zap delete button is hit not very professional you think you are helping people and trying to look that way but you are hindering poor frightened people with giving wrong advise and trying to run down others that have genuinely went out there way to help and to offer valuable help and support.. PS we have been also doing the rounds on your pages and have fore warned people about you through private message yes we are watching you MR D

  13. Amazing you should be a PI nothing illegal nothing wrong and more importantly IF I didn’t want anyone to know anything about ME why is so much available ??? simple the way you have worded and put it yeah it doesnt look great but it’s ALL BULLSHIT and the wrong way around so maybe you shouldn’t give up your day Job just yet eh ?….. You can PM who you like I really don’t worry about idle threats NONE of what I have said anywhere is lying NOT one bit of it but if you care to twist things around to suit your way of thinking that’s your lookout as for how I display MY property for exchange is my business, I may add the way I did it brought many offers sadly just none I could live in and HAD you of bothered to look at the pages it CLEARLY SAYS NOW EXCHNAGED also your not that damn good as I currently have adds for my current (3 bed property, THE ONLY 3 bed ive EVER had in a whole 25 YRS or so as a social housing tenant that’s costing me £100 odd in BT ) Home that is A to large for us and B should have a disabled family in it NOT a disabled person (Me) and a partner in so as i say NOTHING to hide whatsoever thus your “theories” are all to suit what “you” and your merry cliche have conjured up about me, as for any polls I have ran they have all been for the group to demonstrate different things like most recently how many applying for DHP are NOT getting it? to demonstrate the obvious or the longest running one is who would swap flat for a house? again pretty obvious that one even to you ! again your petty little conspiracy theories are ALL 100% wrong and lastly I have a few FB groups I have NEVER denied this? they are what keep me going, give me an interest etc again nothing illegal about that, many “disabled” people manage to keep a job down so what exactly is your point here I use an IPad and sometimes speech programs if hands NOT working well (MS which by the way I have had since 1991 which was diagnosed in Glasgow where guess what? I then lived and did so for 35 YR) I also get my partner to type for me on occasions when I am really NOT up to it like a few months back when I had just returned from another spell in hospital (just to confuse or give you something else to talk about in Inverness our LOCAL hospital believe it or not a whole 65 miles from us) and lastly my VW Club VWs were and are my passion sadly I am NO longer able to fiddle with vans (as it’s a van club NOT a car club but hey HO) and it was me who founded it NO secret there either? why would there be again nothing illegal about that I had a VW custom van or three in my time and started a forum for them that laterly became a large club and your point is ? like the bulk of my groups it (due to clever software runs itself I have to do very little other than keep an eye out over them (oh on that subject that’s the one part you missed I am only partially sighted having only one eye and reduced sight in my good eye again missed the PI grade I’m afraid), i am currently bedbound where i have been for many weeks since coming home from Inverness as I am really not well at present hence my only being online now and again these days think that’s it all covered (and PS BT in truth actually started back in 2011, was given assent on 11/3/12 and finally started to be paid in 2013 but had to go through the HOC and the HOL which is when I started following it which is wholly 100% correct and not long afterwards started my BT page the DAY I got my FIRST BT account which was LONG before you guys I had as soon as I knew it was happening I asked my HA about it, they knew nothing at that time so I asked my Council who with-in 24hrs had told me exactly what I would have to pay for my property and I started my group from their (if you could you could check the very first posting on the BT group and you would find it was my account details for paying BT if you knew what you were talking about you would of known that but sadly again a fail) and to finish with ANYONE that has been removed from any of my groups it has been for not following our rules that should be read my anyone wanting to join simple commonsense, break the rules your gone plainly tells you this what we had to do in the early days as so many were so angry about it they were causing fights and abusing folk so we (being my fellow Admins and myself as I have NOT I repeat NOT ran the group myself for ages now!!) would not let it get out of hand, users would be removed at the first sign of trouble to STOP users from being abused in anyway (I originally let all users have two posts to gauge their manner but in the Height of BT that wasn’t possible A it was far to busy and B many just wanted to fight, riot and cause mayhem which again we made clear we were NOT any type of for or anti BT group we were and are a Support guidance and information group only I may add that the bulk of the trouble emulated from the other large BT group hence why I had to protect our users many of the original ones I still speak to today thus where you got your information about us wrongly advising folk I have NO idea we tell folk the same today we give them the facts to do with what they felt necessary my only comments otherbthan this were NOT to alloy for DHP unless you absolutely had to to stop the systems getting overwhelmed and then the real people who required that help would be denied itbas the Gov were saying if you can’t pay it apply for DHP which as we all know was categorically wrong as it happens I was again correct in latest figures on it ? so there you have it NOTHING WRONG, ILLEGAL, OR WHATEVER ELSE Re – Pauline Gallagher & Dizzy DD (and I’m being accused for not using my name ???) which btw is Dougie McpHerson ??.?.?

  14. Joe – My profound appoligies for my long post above but this had to be cleared up as it was posted on your blog sadly it had to also be answered on your blog, I repeat I was NOT getting at you above NOT at all I often quote you as it happens on my own group so why would I want to attack you? I also often comment on your and Mr Speyes blogs? my main issue with this initial post was it was all to vague hence my worries in taking it too seriously and thus asked where it had emulated from I thought it was the Sun newspaper as I had read a similar recording in it (and my ref to the daily fail was that’s where you would expect to see stories like this but even they would of named and set an area they lived in.?) that was all and like most things online they are taken on the literal wording and blown out of all pre portions again I am most apologetic for any issues my post may have caused it was not my intention as you will well know when we say anything someone will want to know what I asked you hence me doing so, so that I could answer with facts as that how I prefer to do so saves a lot of grief hope that clears this all up 🙂 for you the other lot will never be happy I’m afraid not worried about then however 🙂

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